Boosting acflory’s post The Swedish Experiment

Dr. Jon Tallinger whistleblower Youtube video

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I don’t do this often, but this one seems very important to me.

I have been skeptical of the ‘Swedish Experiment,’ the official Swedish response to the covid-19 pandemic, because anyone who know about epidemiology and vaccines knows that ‘herd immunity’ requires a huge majority of the population to be immune (est. 80-90%).

Then herd immunity makes it unlikely (not impossible) for people to catch the virus from each other, because there are fewer people carrying the virus around.

From the beginning, they said they were relying on people distancing, wearing masks, and behaving like civilized adults, and that this would allow them to not have to shut down the economy.

My friend acflory, on her blog post on Meeka’s Mind, quotes from Dr. Tollinger’s Youtube video above:

The Swedish Experiment

I almost missed this interview in which Dr John Campbell talks to Swedish whistleblower, Dr Jon Tallinger. I was shocked. Then I went to Dr Tallinger’s Youtube channel and watched him tell the world the truth about the so-called Swedish experiment. In brief, it boils down to this:

  • Sweden didn’t expect Covid-19 to hit and hit hard,
  • the Swedish government did not have a plan for dealing with Covid-19,
  • once the virus hit, the plan became to ‘let it rip’ with minimal interference,
  • All the way from the top to local councils, the directive was to not treat Covid patients over 80, or the over-60’s if they had co-morbidities,
  • People from this vulnerable population were not to be sent to hospital if they presented with Covid-19 or Covid-19 like symptoms,
  • Instead, care homes and GPs were to administer palliative care only,
  • This palliative care included morphine to make the patients comfortable, but also to make them appear as if they were not suffering when family came to visit,
  • Morphine is contraindicated for people with respiratory diseases because it depresses their breathing. In other words, it speeds up the moment of death.
  • The people in this vulnerable population were not even to receive oxygen to help them breathe. Top health officials lied about this directive saying that administering oxygen outside of a hospital setting was too ‘dangerous’.
  • This is a lie with just enough truth in it to make it plausible to the public. A small number of people with certain kinds of respiratory problems shouldn’t be given oxygen, but almost all Covid-19 sufferers should. Remember Boris Johnson of the UK? When he was hospitalised with Covid-19, the press made a big point about how he needed oxygen but wasn’t sick enough to need a ventilator.
  • There has been a cover up at all levels of government, and the reason could be that health care for these unproductive members of the Swedish population is just too…expensive.

These damning accusations don’t begin until minute 8:30 because Dr Tallinger clearly fears he won’t be believed and because…this is his own country doing what amounts to involuntary euthanasia.

See the rest at Meeka’s Mind.

Palliative care that speeds death with morphine instead of supporting life with oxygen

is not palliative care, especially when, as above, it makes the patients docile and hides their desperate air hunger from the only people who protect them, their relatives who visit.

It is well known that the most important thing to a person in a care facility is relatives who visit to make sure the person is actually being cared for.

So this is a deliberate attempt to hide the true state of the person in care from the relatives who visit – and it is not going to be any better when those relatives aren’t even allowed to visit.

Oxygen would keep them alive – consuming resources; morphine will get rid of them.

Don’t listen to me – listen to Dr. Tolliver

who is appalled at what is going on.

Listen to The New York Times: Sweden has become the world’s cautionary tale. (This article came out today, after I had started writing this post about acflory’s post.):

Its decision to carry on in the face of the pandemic has yielded a surge of deaths without sparing its economy from damage — a red flag as the United States and Britain move to lift lockdowns.

This is why I won’t go out

I am in that cohort (which has been moved down to the age of 60). When US hospitals are full of patients who need support, they have plans – to deny coverage to people based on age, on perceived value, on assumed quality of life.

I resent the thought that they think some young person who went out partying and voluntarily exposed himself to the virus and caught it is somehow more important than me, who am being very careful (yes, I know – because I can). Those who put themselves into groups of unmasked other people and drink to oblivion.

Our local hospital’s covid beds are full now.

Enjoy your beer.

Thanks to acflory for permission to copy her summary, which is concise and coherent, and terrifying.

Dr. Tollinger has asked people to boost his message; I’m assuming the links to his video are okay with him. He also has a Facebook page.



36 thoughts on “Boosting acflory’s post The Swedish Experiment

  1. acflory

    Thank you Alicia, not just for boosting the message but for including that chilling article from the New York Times. As an Australian, the NY Times is not part of my normal news gathering. That is something that may have to change. As you may know, my city [Melbourne] is suffering from what is to us a major resurgence of the virus, and this time it’s almost all thanks to community spread. We reopened too soon. Many people assumed that the danger must be over, and something went wrong. That’s all it took. Now the new cases are doubling at an alarming rate.
    No one likes being in lockdown but the alternative is unthinkable.
    Stay well.

    Liked by 1 person

        1. Alicia Butcher Ehrhardt Post author

          Which is precisely why we need to know how bad it is.

          I’ve spent too many years thinking things were getting better, slowly, while they were just getting more entrenched.

          I read somewhere recently that ONE in THREE Black men will spend time in prison. If you replaced Black with white and got that statistic, people would be up in arms.

          I didn’t know it was that bad – and now I do.

          And it’s that way for everything because of wanting to protect the hegemony and delicate egos of white men. Which has to stop. And from the top.

          Liked by 1 person

        2. Lloyd Lofthouse

          Knowing that the U.S. has the largest prison population in the planet with China in a distant 2nd place, I was curious how many Americans since Nixon declared war on recreational drugs like pot, have spent time in jail and/or prison, and I haven’t been able to find that out after several Google searches. Eventually, I get frustrated and give up before I try again several months later.

          Nixon’s war on drugs was launched in 1971. Before that war on the country’s citizens, the average prison population in the US was about 250,000 inmates at any given time. Then Reagan doubled down on Nixon’s war on drugs and the prison population soared past 2,000,000 and has stayed there since 2000 or 2001.

          The following link leads to a chart showing that growth rate. It is a tragedy.

          Click to access 00-05_rep_punishingdecade_ac.pdf

          If more than two million Americans have been behind bars in jails and prisons for the last twenty years (most of them for minor offenses related to recreational drug use), how many Americans have spent time in prison during some part of their lives?

          How large could that number be?


        3. Alicia Butcher Ehrhardt Post author

          It is a national disgrace.

          So many things ‘we’ do are a disgrace.

          A whole lot of people have not been doing their jobs, unless that is interpreted as perpetuating situations that require them to stay in those jobs indefinitely.

          Time for lots and lots of reforms – hope the next Congress has the stomach for it.


        4. Lloyd Lofthouse

          The only way those reforms will happen is if the Democrats take back both houses of Congress and hold that majority for at least three Democratic presidents for a total of 24 years.


        5. acflory

          I get some from my other US friends, and no, it’s not pretty at all. Australia, the UK and the US all have nasty conservative governments, but what’s happening in the US is…extreme. 😦


        6. Lloyd Lofthouse

          Obama did not have Moscow Mitch and his GOP majority in Congress to block him for all of his eight years. The Democrats held the majority in the House until 2011. I do not think the Affordable Care Act known as Obamacare would have passed without that support.

          “Starting January 2009, at the beginning of the 111th Congress, in the month that Barack Obama was inaugurated president, the House of Representatives was made up of 257 Democrats and 178 Republicans. There is no question that Democrats had total control in the House from 2009-2011. …

          “The swearing in of Kirk finally gave Democrats 60 votes (at least potentially) in the Senate. Total control” of Congress by Democrats lasted all of 4 months. From September 24, 2009 through February 4, 2010…at which point Scott Brown, a Republican, was sworn in to replace Kennedy’s Massachusetts seat.”


        7. Alicia Butcher Ehrhardt Post author

          4 months out of 8 years, and the first Black president. If they had known then what they know now, there would have been less internecine warfare, and a whole lot more collaboration.

          The Republicans have always been good at cheating. Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Bush, Trump.


        8. acflory

          That was a tragedy. He could have done so much good. And yes, he was and is highly respected in the rest of the world. Statesman to conman in one insane election.


        9. acflory

          God yes. But it goes beyond individual countries as Australians voted for a smarmy conservative politician…against there best interests because they didn’t ‘like’ the candidate from the progressive party. Like some idiot popularity contest. I think people have gone a little nuts in most of the Western world.


  2. Sharon

    Wow that is horrifying and Trump what a disgrace to the human race that individual is. And yes why should some idiot who takes no responsibility for their own health and the health of those around them be considered as more worthy of saving then someone who has taken responsibility and has a lifetime of contributions to society. Society is becoming scary. Keep staying safe and best wishes.

    Liked by 1 person

    1. Alicia Butcher Ehrhardt Post author

      REMEMBER: What keeps people working all their lives is partly that they are looking forward to ENJOYING RETIREMENT and whatever money and social network they have been able to earn.

      THIS is saying directly: once you are not contributing, you will NOT get any benefits accrued – haha, we fooled you! No good life for you after working a lifetime.

      THIS is what the kids don’t get.

      Old people have no desire to ‘consume resources’. Once we get to a certain point, NO, we do NOT want every medical intervention there is to try to keep us alive.

      Why? Because they hurt, they are intrusive and undignified, and make the end of our lives hell in many cases.

      But there is the time between ‘working’ and ‘end of life’ when a reasonable amount of medical technology and intervention, while intrusive and painful, might give us some more years of living relatively comfortably, and enjoying life and our families.

      I’ve already told my husband not to keep me alive if there is no hope of regaining some useful function, such as my writing. But please don’t send me off into the great beyond prematurely, either – I enjoy my life, my writing, my reading, and ESPECIALLY my kids and husband and sisters and nieces and nephews and friends.

      I can’t wait for a vaccine, and to get back in our outdoor pools, and enjoy the company of the fascinating people we’ve met at our retirement community, and participate in the political life as much as possible, and…

      You get the idea.

      Liked by 5 people

  3. Lloyd Lofthouse

    Trumpty Dumpty suggested the same when he said people should be exposed to the virus and let those that die, die, to save the economy and his job as president.

    “Trump: Some will die for economy’s restart, but you’re ‘warriors'”

    Then The Kremlin’s Agent Orange and serial liar had the White Houe flag lowered to half mask to honor those dead warriors he wanted to sacrifice their lives to boost his re-election odds by November 2020.

    Liked by 1 person

        1. Lloyd Lofthouse

          I am counting on Trump being pure Trump and doing it his way by not listening to any of his advisers. I think if he follows that “wonderful (yea, sure)” instinctual gut of his, it will lead to another massive failure like his six bankruptcies that lost U.S. banks more than a billion dollars.


        1. Alicia Butcher Ehrhardt Post author

          It’s NOT just because I’m in the to-be-sacrificed cohort, but that it is NOT random, and that so many people are not following the recommendations that could let us reopen cautiously and safely that I want to scream!

          The supreme irony would be to have care denied because one of those yahoos needed care.


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